Anyhow, just recently I've had quite a run-in with a few of them see here.
The latest post is sensational! (It concerns a Dr Ross, who is researching some kind of psychic ability)
- What I was implying is that you and Dr.Colin Ross are exploiting vulnerable people for your own purposes through fraudulent therapy.
- Both of you cling onto refuted and unscientific thoughts and beliefs as if they were a religion to be worshipped uncritically.
- You support your delusions through a network of others within that cult.
- You encourage mentally fragile and easily manipulated people to convert to your beliefs by fraudualently claiming authority in an area that you have no authority in.
- You iatrogenically produced false survivors or twins and documented your results while maintaining your self annointed authourity which ultimately perpetuates this quackery.
[If that's what I've been doing to you, please leave now by the side entrance, for I have been told that you are obviously mentally fragile and easily manipulated. But dont tell me, or I may be terribly upset because it may dampen my fragile little Ego which I am bolstering with my Cult.]
Wow! If I wanted a group of people to compare notes with, this is it. Absolutely sure that they are not womb twin survivors, and even if they were, that it would not leave any impression on their psyche. Great!
Today I know what to do: to find a group of absolute and utter sceptics to complete the questionnaire for me and hey presto! there is my control group, which I have been looking for for years, so I can begin to make comparisons.
All I have to do is to find 700 sceptics to match the 700 questionnaires - I wonder where I start?
The trouble is, can I be absolutely sure that sceptics are not sceptical because they are womb twin survivors? That is always the problem.......
But that is for the future. The chapters continue to develop. Chapter 9 now.
After all. I must keep busy "iatrogenically producing false survivors or twins", not to mention "bolstering my self-anointed authority. " With all that to do, Im not sure how I will have time for any more research!
What fun this is!
Are you serious? I wouldn't think of fun being this hard critizied. I know what I know and when others don't, I don't care. They have other points of view.
ReplyDeleteAnd you call the forum 'People who believe in critical thinking', why? There are just believers... hm maybe I got something really wrong, I'm not sure now. If so I'm sorry.
Thanks for the sympathy. It seems to be my lot to be frequently subject to disparagement and insult, but in this work I meet all kinds of people with all kinds of views and I am slowly learning how to deal with them all. The media and press are far worse than this! I am always "weirdo of the week" to them! I have found this last run in most useful (and utterly hilarious!) I don't care either, I'm not upset, so don't worry. Thanks.
ReplyDeleteI spent 20 years bouncing from one well-meaning but misguided therapist. They all had some reason why I felt the way I did and it was always the same story. I was a very special person who had some trauma that I could not remember.
ReplyDeleteFinally, after a gruesome suicide attempt, I spoke with a psychiatrist and was diagnosed with severe depression. They gave me the medication needed to balance the chemicals in my brain.
These days I am content with life and often happy. But I would do anything to get back the 20 years wasted on quacks like you.
Dear Anonymous
ReplyDeleteYou would never have come across me at all in that 20 years, unless of course you are a womb twin survivor. Then if you decided you were, or just wondered about it, you would have possibly taken a look at the web sites, read the articles, checked out the links and maybe made contact with some other womb twin survivors on the forum to talk it over. You may never have made any contact with me at all, but if you did, you would have exchanged emails with me over a short period, all free of charge. If you wanted to go deeper we may have arranged a telephone or skype session and you may have come to a workshop to ask questions and explore this even further. At every stage you would be encouraged to question and explore. Then if you were not satisfied, you would move on. There is no harm in that that I can see.
I'm surprised that it took you 20 years to get some medication for your depression. I'm sorry you chose to waste your life in that way but I am very glad that at last you have found contentment and a reason to stay alive. I wish you well.
The chain of events you describe is exactly what I went through with the phony therapists. Deep explorations, workshops, books, hypnotherapy, therapy sessions, light therapy, traveling to different states to meet new therapists. They were all so kind. They understood me. I was weak and foolish. They knew it and they made a lot of money from it.
ReplyDeleteThe only difference is that I was told that my mother had tried to abort me. I spent so much money and so much time "overcoming" this issue. I even stopped talking to my mother for 5 years because she kept saying that I was a planned baby. Our relationship is still strained.
The whole time the problem was a chemical imbalance in my brain.
Anonymous you might want (or should?) consider that you are a switched handedness person, that means, writing with the weaker hand no matter which one this is for you. Just google it and look after the consequences of such a thing, could be interesting for you.
ReplyDeleteAlthea, I didn't consider the press, yes, they are very critical I think. Thats a pity because especially wombtwin survivros (speaking for myself now) do not want to be confronted with criticism but still want that much more people now about our problems!
Althes, where in that long, long list of treatment do you put talking to a medical doctor?
ReplyDeleteI was discourage from seeking the help I needed. I was told that doctors didn't understand pre-birth trauma, they wouldn't take me seriously, they would just try to treat the symptoms with medication. But I needed that medication for a very real medical condition.
You seem to be doing the same thing. Hopefully your patients will get the help they really need without resorting to suicide.
Dear Anonymous, I have come across abortion survivors in this work, of course, but they have usually been told by one of the family or their mother. It's not anything I would suggest to a client: whatever was that for? And why were you so ready to believe it?
ReplyDeleteIf there is one thing I hold true, it is that other people are the world's best expert on being themselves. We cannot know another person's mind. If anyone told me anything about myself like that, I would either instantly KNOW it with every cell of my body, or remain sceptical and continue to seek proof until I was convinced.
I am in fact the survivor of an abortion attempt and the minute I worked it out I KNEW it, deep inside. I was then able to forgive my mother,- she had died but she still needed forgiving, and I needed to let all that go. I am sure she never realised there were two of us.
Thank you for your comments - I don't get many here, and is it a pleasure to hear a story with such a good ending.
Rest assured, we don't do quackery here.
I am a qualified counsellor. I am trained never to give advice, even if asked. I merely recommend sources of further information that visitors to my web site may not know about.
ReplyDeleteWhat "long, long list" and what "treatment?" I don't give "treatment". This is absurd.
The proper word is "clients" but they are people first. I dont work with "patients."
The medication is working for you it seems, and I am glad for you, but you are obviously still very angry, and I would prefer that you do not continue accuse me in this way.
It is my policy always to be kind and polite. Can you manage that, or are you still too full of rage about those wasted years?
If so, how can I help?
"If there is one thing I hold true, it is that other people are the world's best expert on being themselves."
ReplyDeleteWould you then expect a cancer patent to diagnose themselves? Should they just "know."
Depression and numerous other mental illnesses are caused by specific things that can be treated medically. The best person to treat this is a doctor. Unfortunately the very nature of these diseases makes people irrational. They do not want to admit to themselves that they are sick. This leaves them open to quackery.
"And why were you so ready to believe it?"
Are you blaming me for my abuse at the hands of quacks? Please do not work with rape survivors.
The reason I believed it is because these people knew my symptoms. They knew how I was feeling and they said they had a cure for that. Because they were right about the first part, I thought they were right about the latter.
When they said I was an abortion survivor, I *knew* they were right. I knew it down to the tips of my toes. THIS was why I was shy as a kid, why I couldn't get close to people, why I felt I did not belong in the world.
But I was not an abortion survivor. I was a person with a chemical imbalance inherited from both sides of the family.
If even ONE person you are treating is like me, you are evil.
Dear Anonymous
ReplyDeleteThe tablets are helping I am sure but to feel entitled to insult people in this way is a sign of narcissism. I suggest you check that out. Also if you have not yet done so, do visit the sceptics link above. They also think all therapy is "woo." They don't call me "evil", as you did, because that would have got them banned from the forum, but they used insults almost as strong as that, as you will see. In your case, it sounds like paranoia and defensiveness - both symptoms of narcissism.
It cant be doing you any good to be so full of hate. Maybe that should be the focus of any further work. It looks like you are too paranoid now to ever consult a therapist again but it doesn't matter, you can heal yourself.
I am sorry, but after that last post you have overstepped the boundary of decent behaviour. I of course grant you the right to reply to me privately but all further comments from you here will be deleted immediately.
We can continue this discussion by email, I can be contacted through the wombtwin survivors web site.
I wish you well, it must have been very tough for you but I hope one day you will be able to forgive and move on.
Althea I don't think you have to answer this kind of posts!
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